President Bush, Yay! or Nay! ((for people in the US)

For people that live in the US. What do you think about Bust being in office again, and what he has done. Right now, in the US, his aproval (sp?)
rating is about 30%, so I though we would take a little poll here are selves.

I can't stand him personlly.

You try running the united states of america.

ANd i think hes a complete asshole. he owes canada 3 billion dollars and wont pay up.

I vote Nay!

my personal opinion is that he's a little bitch. everything he's doing is so he'll look like a nice guy. he's trying too hard not to ruin his fathers name. he went about the war all wrong. but i guess that's from so much pressure from the american people being idiots about the war. war = death. why don't people understand that!?

Well, first things first, I'm not an american, but I know this character. I vote nay!

The world is already shit. But what the hell. NAY.

If I did, I wouldn't go to war because of oil.

I think the president is a stupid bitch. I know it probably isn't the easiest work in the world, but really, even I couldn't f*ck up that bad!
He's a bold faced liar (along with the rest of his appointed administration). And what's up with this whole giving money to impoverished countries??? We owe people billions of dollars, we have people that just barely survive in our own country, but hey, let's give money (that we don't have mind you) to another country and help them out!
Also he needs to keep his religion out of his decisions. That's why we are "supposed" to have a separation of church and state. Besides, it's not fair to other people's beliefs (outside of his Evangelical Christian beliefs).
And and I know I'm ranting and raving (he just pisses me off) but he should also fire that FEMA shmuck so the citizens don't have to pay his $175,000 salary (even though he was replaced he still gets paid). I can't think of any work where if you suck at it, and they want you not there, that they still pay you your salary. WTF?
So incase you didn't figure it out by now. my answer is

(I had to change certain words because for some reason it's coming up with "sponsored links crap.... I think my comp is f'd)

If I did, I wouldn't go to war because of oil.

i would. gas is outrageous. as soon as i get paid, and fill up my car, pay insurance, pay my cell phone bill. i have about $50 to play with.... if i'm lucky

Who Voted Yay?

I vote nay, im not totally sure that John Kerry could have done a better job, but the pres is running the country pretty crappy, I guess that means go Ralph Nader

Uh oh Jenni, better hit the edit button! YOU TYPED IN GREEN!

And what's up with this whole giving money to impoverished countries??? We owe people billions of dollars, we have people that just barely survive in our own country, but hey, let's give money (that we don't have mind you) to another country and help them out!
Also he needs to keep his religion out of his decisions. That's why we are "supposed" to have a separation of church and state. Besides, it's not fair to other people's beliefs (outside of his Evangelical Christian beliefs).)

i forgot about that! what the hell is up with that!? hey lets give money to poor nations that BURN OUR FLAG!!! and hate Americans! yeah that seems like a good idea. i mean, we got people in OUR COUNTRY without homes, jobs, food, etc. but we'll give it to people that HATE everything about us. not to mention we owe countries on our side money. screw all that, lets help Iraq get back in business so they can train more terrorists and idiots to blow people up because their "GOD" tells them to.

Id also say the government was pretty much corrupt. 9-11 bush didnt even do anything prior do the warnings about it. And he was friends with osamas family so I would say he probably had something to do with it such as if he did the attacks bush would help hide him and pay him maybe? Kind of strange in a way. And they said they couldnt find any airplane wreckage into the pentagon. FIIIISHY, I'd say. And the hypocrisy of this democacracy is also a shame one channel you see charity and the next violence,death and what not its a shame. And bush needs to focus more on our country like previous posters said because no one should be without a home that is just re damn diculous. And im not capitalizing bushes name because he doesnt diserve it. Thats how how much I hate the bastard. DOUBLE NAY VOTE.

i forgot about another thing.....

immigration! it's getting so bad down here. you go to the grocery store, you see food and drink items IN SPANISH! we have magazines IN SPANISH! i can't tell you how many spanish people here don't speak english! that bothers me so bad. if you want to live here, LEARN THE LANGUAGE! i'm not gonna move to any foreign country without having some basic knowledge of the language they speak there. Bush needs to put tighter security on the border. keep those assholes out. if you can't get here legally, don't come here at all. sorry if i'm offending anyone, but i think it's ridiculous. so many Spanish people have "pride" for their country. if it's so great, why the hell do you live here!?

Yeah, atleast your immigrants have to SNEAK across the border, our country just lets anyone in

Sad, but true. Although as of late, it seems we are not being so leniant at our borders.

Although I don't live in the US, I don't like him. So I vote nay! I think his/the goverments response to Katrina was awful.

Two years? That's just ridiculous.

Bush sucks.

Who said anything about oil? That's a liberal lie. Everyone knows that we went to war with Iraq just because we didn't like Saddam. I mean, that justifies the death count.

Oh, and he was, like, helping terrorists, or whatever. Really. We .

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Plain and simple I dont like him.

nader all the way..... i constantly read critisisms of america from canandians. am i wrong or not but canada has troops there and i know for fact they are part of the occupying coalition. so why all the critisims from canadians? they are there to.

Canada has chosen to take a pragmatic approach in working with multilateral institutions and the coalition led by the United States.

and no one ever takes shots at the british who have been there the entire time.. ok so we are the whipping boy because we have a leader that obviously cant handle what he has gotten into. and all other countries act like we are bush clones. wtf

http://www.thewednesdayreport.com/twr/twr18v18.htm

does canada have a propaganda machine too?

campkill1387

We've tried working with the INS but that's a bunch of crap. They just keep giving us the run around. We actually got so close we could taste it then someone decided to change all the rules on paperwork again so now we have to fill out NEW paperwork and that still hasn't gotten here (it's been 2 months since they said they'd send it). When we call them about that they just say, "oh, I just don't understand why it wasn't sent yet....". "I'll try send it through again...".
Bunch of f'ing bs if you ask me. It's not like he's from an extremist country or even muslim or believing in Allah... then maybe I could understand the slowness of it.......

Just because British troops are there doesn't mean that we like them being there, just as some Americans and Canadians don't like thier troops being there. I don't like George Bush for reasons other than Iraq. I did laugh when he claimed God told him to invade Afganistan

i understand what you are saying. my point is that everyone attacks americans like we all support bush. i just get tired of the stupid american comments. coming from citizens of countries who armies are there to.. i just seems as if its almost like racisim againt america. i dunno i just rant.
i would also agree about the not likeing bush for other reasons than this war. he had a long standing record of stupidity before 9/11.

Yeah one of Bush's advisors really needs to take him to one side and tell him that religion and politics don't mix. You know he is running out of excuses when he starts blaming God for going to war. After all didn't Bin Laden give the same excuse for his "Holy War"? I think I might rob a bank tomorrow and when the cops come I'll just say, "it's not my fault, God made me do it".

I get what you mean. I think it's unfair too that people attack America in the way that they think they love Bush, think they're stupid etc. it's unfair and a gross generalisation. And, slightly off topic, I hate racists!

funny story.... about a year or so ago, some lady beat her 3 (i think) kids to death with boulders because GOD TOLD HER TO!

what the f' is up with these people?!?!

They are mentally insane.
They shouldnt be able to have kids in the first place.

Well, he did win the elections, twice... So therefore the majority of you do like him...

If you don't support him, and didn't vote for him, the attacks aren't directed at you... if you did vote for him, well, you deserve it.

and if you didnt vote at all, you have no right to say anything.

They are mentally insane.
They shouldnt be able to have kids in the first place.

Sir, are you proposing that the government impliment regulated breeding rights to keep from having kids?

Because that would be sweet!

Sorry, sorry. It's one of me and my friend's sicker jokes.

On topic, however, I don't care for Bush. He tried to pick a fight with China, moved onto Afghanistan and while everyone was distracted, he moved onto Iraq. His ecinomic policies are... well. bad.
I'm not so sure Kerry would have done better, and I think that's probably how Bush got re-elected. A slim majority of American 'swing voters' decided that their lack of confidence in Kerry as a leader outweighed the disgust they had for Bush's crazy antics.
There was no "you're doing a good job, Mr. Bush!" but instead it was more like: "you suck slightly less than that other guy."

I think the american people were put off by John Kerry's intelligence (or he is at least better spoken in the english language than bushy). And all the rednecks were like, "der, I can't understand him so I'll vote for the guy on "our" intelligence level".....

Too bad that now only 30 percent support his ideas now (in America)....

So the other 20+ percent just admit that they were stupid

my point isn't how much support he has now, my point is that the american people elected him, twice...

well, considering the other 'party' Bush was the "smart" way to go. it's like would you rather play Color a Dinosaur or Mario Paint? both games suck shit from a straw, but Mario Paint (Bush) is a little bit better than Color a Dinosaur (Kerry).

John Kerry wasn't all that bad. He wouldn't have f***ed up as bad Bush has ALREADY INTO HIS SECOND TERM. I mean, how can you be the president of the USA not be able to speak his OWN langauge well. I mean listen to him talk...

You little snot-nosed punks better quit yer belly-achin'. I'm a gettin' tired of all these trashy comments about me all over the internets. The United States of America has flourished under my term. You can all see the fruits of my labor in the economy and the fruits of my loom in the wash.
We as a country strive to be all we can be. We do our best to aim high and move full speed ahead. We are the few, the proud. We do a good turn daily.

I place a high standard for this country's values - work, family, religion, and (most importantly) .
That is the America I stand for. Just be thankful we arnt livin' in some rundown third-world country like Bulgaria or Australia.
Now excuse me... I'm gonna go have a cold one and bomb some more middle-eastern countries.
So knock it off, ya hear?

With warmest regards,
~ George W.

I was wondering when George was going to make an appearance.

If there's one thing that never ceases to amaze me, it's that bush is still in office. Just about every time he comes up with one of his "silutions", the country becomes worse off. A thing I've noticed is whenver his popularity starts to go down, some drastic disaster happens, causing people to stop protesting and huddle together in fear. It's my suspicion that some of the disasters aren't accidental.

I guess that's so everywhere.

I think it is. I'm all for charity, but sometimes charity has to start at home. Especially if you're billions in debt.

Well, hindsight is twenty/twenty. The question at the time, however, was;
"Which is worse, a devil you know or a devil you don't know?"

Oh, and the only way we can learn to conserve better is by being better... conservers.

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I think a certain someone rubbed off on an impressionable young Dubya.

manuel

Same problem here, it's not only the US. Germany also gives billions and billions to "poor countries" while our budget goes into minus for billions and billions every year and many people inside the generous country are living with next to nothing.
I guess that's so everywhere.

BTW, I don't like G.B.

Hehe......

Wow... the States must suck a lot more that I had originally thought... Poor Americans. We Canadians love our Social Programs... too bad that there are so many people abusing them, that it is hard to get the people who are acutally in need the help. We have 2nd and 3rd generation Welfare people... that isn't a good thing.

Yes, we do have decent health care.. notice I say _decent_. The goverment is slowly cutting back on the more important things... like eye exams being covered... people over 20 now have to pay $75 to have an eye exam...

EDIT: Sorry, it's over 20, not under 20... but you get the picture.

That sucks. My girlfriend has to pay a shedload for her perscriptions, and as she's a student, she's living on about 3,000 pounds a year which after rent and food etc. doesn't leave much.

Yeah, I know the feeling... I went to the optometrist yesterday, and WHAM! Change of percription $401.85... no coverage.

Damn! I have to pay for my glasses and things first, then Falconbridge ( The company my dad works for) Covers it.

Dang.
According to her Doctor, if she was unemployed or living off benefits or something, she would get them for free or Super Cheap. Which really stinks, seeing as she went to uni to get a degree to get a decent job so she wouldn't have to live on state handouts!

THE LEADER by anonymous

Patient and steady with all he must bear,
Ready to meet every challenge with care,
Easy in manner, yet solid as steel,
Strong in his faith, refreshingly real.
Isn't afraid to propose what is bold,
Doesn't conform to the usual mould,
Eyes that have foresight, for hindsight won't do,
Never backs down when he sees what is true,
Tells it all straight, and means it all too.
Going forward and knowing he's right,
Even when doubted for why he would fight,
Over and over he makes his case clear,
Reaching to touch the ones who won't hear.
Growing in strength he won't be unnerved,
Ever assuring he'll stand by his word.
Wanting the world to join his firm stand,
Bracing for war, but praying for peace,
Using his POWer so evil will cease,
So much a leader and worthy of trust,
Here stands a man who will do what he must.

This poem appeared in a Pakistani school textbook by mistake, and they're eager to get the books reprinted without it.

Why is that? Try reading the first letter on each line of the poem and you'll soon see what's wrong with it.

It's so silly. If it really was talking about Bush, no mention of trust would be made.

neither would mention of bravery be in there....

You know, even with all the crap he's pulled, I never really out-and-out him. I disliked him, especially since he has a penchant for embarrassing the hell out of us. But I never really hated him until he pulled the "We-Don't-Torture-But-I-Won't-Support-A-Bill-Banning-It-Because-Torturing-Helps-National-Security-Even-Though-We-Know-The-CIA-Won't-Torture" bullshit. I was absolutely livid when he did that.

God damn it, this is one of the big reasons why the world f*cking hates us!

"We're going bitch at you for human rights violations. What you're doing is completely unacceptable, and morally reprehensible. So, we're going to police you."
"What? Oh, them. They're terrorists. You see, they're a threat to our national security. That's why we can torture them. But not allowed to torture people."

Bush and Saddam should just throw down fisticuffs and bare knuckle box to sort out their differences.

no, because Saddam would win. we don't want Saddam to win....

I disliked Kerry because he was in favour of gay marriage.

I don't think it would be fair to "redefine" marriage, though I do think they should at least get some some sort of civil union/Contract. I just don't think it's fair for homosexuals to get gyped on tax breaks (for being a "married" couple), inheritances (from their spouses), healthcare (through their spouses companys), social security (they don't "inherit" it).

Besides, think how the economy would boom with all the money the gay community would contribute to those celebrations?

But then again I'm also a firm believer that the snack industry should get behind the legalization of marijuana movement.

I don't see whats wrong with that. If some one is gay, why can't they get married to who they want to?

I don't see whats wrong with that. If some one is gay, why can't they get married to who they want to?

Ditto.
I fail to see any real problem with same sex marriges. Its the 21st century gosh darnit.

I don't see whats wrong with that. If some one is gay, why can't they get married to who they want to?
I have my own opinion, you have yours. I'm strongly against it.

one of my aunts is gay, and she's married. it doesn't bother me. honestly, i don't see what the big deal is. if 2 dudes wanna get married, that's their choice. if you're gay and want to get married, then get married. it's really none of my business or YOURS. however, i don't think they should be able to adopt, that would just confuse the hell out of the kid

I'm not exactly sure what to think of it. I definitely feel that letting them marry is definitely persecution, but I can definitely understand why people are against it. I'd like to make up my mind, but I haven't heard any new arguments for either side.

OGTL, what's your reasoning for being against it? Is it religious? Or is it something else? I'd really like to hear your side of it.

I'm not really for or against gay marriage, although I do tend to lean toward against. Only because they throw those stupid damned parades and crap, and gay people think they're all special just because they're gay.

Do we have a STRAIGHT pride parade? Then why should we be forced to watch a bunch of morons dancing around in pink underpants on TV?

Didn't you watch Mr. Roger's neighborhood? is special.

Ah.

OGTL, what's your reasoning for being against it? Is it religious? Or is it something else? I'd really like to hear your side of it.
I don't wish to turn this into a big arguement, the only thing i have to say is, Men should not be penetrated.

hahahha, i agree. but men aren't the only ones that can be gay. are you saying that all women should be penetrated? if so i'd have to disagree, some just shouldn't be

There are straight men that also enjoy "penetration".
So now I'm confused...
Are they gay?

Ha! Hijacked Thread of the Year award goes to OGTL!

There are straight men that also enjoy "penetration".
So now I'm confused...
Are they gay?

there's no doubt about it. "bisexual" men are gay. i don't care if you're married to a women and have kids, you take it up the rear you're a queer.

I like it! (The slogan, not up the ass)

I was watching a public access channel today and for two hours they showed this consiracy show about 9/11 and other government stuff. It was spooky.

Just go here

"There is no peace in retreat.
And there is no honor in retreat."

This comment was in President Bush's State of The Union address a few nights ago.

Now, I need someone to verify this; is that comment not exactly what Nixon said regarding Vietnam?

Haha. I saw the video on that. He sure does have some high morales doesnt he. . And he also called the constituation a G*d damned piece of paper once I think.

Bush and Saddam will be playing gin rummy in hell.
And he's supposed to be the moral majority? I have more morals in my pinky nail (and right now that nail is busted halfway down).

Since the mere sight of him makes me want to barf m' breakfast, I have to respond with a resounding....nnnnn

NAY!

Anyone see the news about the Press Secretary for the Department of Homeland security? Stupid perv.

He's not doing the greatest job, but yay

You don't have an option for "He's my CIC, I'm not allowed to have an opinion"

For the record, I was in Iraq for the invasion and I think it was the right thing to do (perhaps poorly executed). Many Iraqi men, women and children thanked me for risking my life to help remove the tyrant.

I'm not going to go into the gory details here, since this is a family friendly forum, but if you want to know what we put a stop to you can PM me.

I think the next tyrant you should remove is Reverand Fred Phelps. I'm so sick of hearing about his dumb ass protesting troops funerals. This freak even has gone as far at to say the Mr. Rogers is burning in hell.

This freak even has gone as far at to say the Mr. Rogers is burning in hell.

??!

I realize this is 3-4 months after you posted this, but you can still stand some correction.

John Kerry didn't support gay marriage.

He dissed Mr. Rogers? That's it, I'm calling in a favor.

I realize this is 3-4 months after you posted this, but you can still stand some correction.

John Kerry didn't support gay marriage.

what's wrong with gay marriage? don't get me wrong, i'm not gay, and i don't really 'agree' with being gay. but honestly, what does it matter to YOU if some guy marries another guy, or if some girl marries another girl. "it's against God's will" so are alot of things you do on a daily basis.

I have to agree with Commander Campkill on this one...

Here's one way to look at it... Marriage is such a wholesome and special coming of two indivuduals to one commitment... PFFFFFFFFFTTTT

That's why you can go to vegas and get drunk, married, and consumated in one night? Or a couple of crazy a$$3$ can go and get married and have domestic disputes and or kill each other/themselves? But ohhhh no, a couple of fruity guys, who wouldn't hurt a fly, cannot go and pronounce their love for each other?

Does it affect you in any way/shape/or form? Then why should you care? this is a free country and you cannot stop people from being gay so why try to stop them from doing what they want?? Doesn't everyone deserve to be happy? And what ever it takes for them to be happy? (as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others)

If you don't like/agree with it DON'T LOOK AT IT!!!!

Don't go and outlaw cookies because like brownies.

I've recently decided that I'm against it. Mainly, because I'm against gays having public displays of affection.

I'm against all public displays of affection, people need to learn some control... I don't need to see you slobbering all over some d00d/chix0r in the mall.

I'm against all public displays of affection, people need to learn some control... I don't need to see you slobbering all over some d00d/chix0r in the mall.

Ha! But my concerns are largely about kids. ("Will somebody think of the *SOB*) Little kids (I'm talking four to five) at least can understand people kissing, but two guys, or girls? While gays have their rights, parents also have a right to tell kids about the facts of life on their own terms.

Also, while we're on the subject, I'm going to say something that I've been dying to say for a long, long time; I have no problem with homosexuality. them.

Undoubtedly, that statement will be taken the wrong way, as calling homosexuality abnormal makes it sound like a condemnation. However, it's a fact. Homosexuality isn't the standard genetic programming. Therefore, it is not normal. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem with people who shove their sexuality in my face.

If anyone wants to call me a filthy rotten dirty homophope, please just pm me, rather than starting a brawl. I'm just stating my opinion here.

them.

Undoubtedly, that statement will be taken the wrong way, as calling homosexuality abnormal makes it sound like a condemnation. However, it's a fact. Homosexuality isn't the standard genetic programming. Therefore, it is not normal. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem with people who shove their sexuality in my face.

If anyone wants to call me a filthy rotten dirty homophope, please just pm me, rather than starting a brawl. I'm just stating my opinion here.

I completely agree with that. People can do whatever they want to behind closed doors. I actually know a gay guy and although I wouldn't consider myself friends with him, I still have no problem talking the usual "Hey what's up" to him. As long as he or any gay guy doesn't shove their "gayness" in my face I never see myself having any reason to public affection involving a tongue down someones throat is just disgusting. I mean seriously get a fucking room!

ok, but what does gay marriage have to do with PDA?

If people don't like their (gay people) they should let them get married. Passion killer right there!