Revolution (Don't rename my threads.)

Well, I looked all through "Modern Systems" and we don't seem to have a Revolution thread yet! We have one for the controller and stuff, but not the console itself.

So this thread can be for discussion of the console, it's controller, or anything else related.

I'll start by tossing this out:

And stating that if it does launch at that price point, I'm having one on launch day.

Awesome link, and great news at that! That's definitely one of the factors that I have to take into consideration when purchasing a newer console... AFFORDABILITY. Sure, it doesn't sound like much of a POWerhouse technically, but everything does sound positive so far. Hopefully that final sentence/question can ring true in the future!

If it is anywhere near two hundred dollars, and the games are promising, I'm getting it. Screw technical POWerhouses. If I can't afford the damn thing, why the hell would I save up for it when I can easily buy the revolution?

That is fantastic news. There's a 95% chance I was getting one anyway, and if it is cheap, it makes it all the better. It doesn't really matter if the graphics look as good as the 360 or not, i'm sure they'll still be good and it's gameplay what matters. Although good graphics are nice.

I'm not sure what i think of this system yet.

Once I get 50 dollars (after Christmas since I'll be broke because of buying gifts for my family and friends), I'm reserving it. I would love it to be 200 dollars, but I think it will be 250...if not YAY!

Super Mario Bros. NES in proper widescreen form, I'll be buying it for sure, although I'm wondering whats up with Nintendos anti-HDTV stuff, what do they see in the future that we can't?

I think they see that all TVs also support SD resolutions (most people still don't have HD sets either), and that games will look just fantastic with higher resolution textures, better lighting, and physics. They also see that the only reason the Xbox 360 or PS3 need all the horsePOWer they have is to drive those crazy high resolutions. Further, the hardware required to drive those resolutions is the reason for the cost of the Xbox 360 and PS3. by opting not to go that route, Nintendo can produce a much more cost efficient machine. and win market share by being so much cheaper than the competition that there really is no competition.

What are you going to do, spend $400 on an Xbox 360 (likely more on the PS3) or get a Revolution and a nice little stack of games for half of the cost of the other consoles alone?

I have a cheapo little 20" tube, it has component, but only 480i. it was $100 CDN, and was only intended as a temporary set.

I do intend my next set to be capable of at least 720p, as I plan to purchase an Xbox 360 when they iron out some hardware issues.

This sounds like the same strategy they used for the NES. Affordable hardware, high quality games. They've been using that quite a lot for their handhelds, but have pretty much ignored this console-wise ever since the SNES days. They can't really control the market with the iron fist they once had, but it's just as well. If they still held onto it like they used to, owners of Nintendo consoles would miss out on some great 3rd party games.

Actually, the SNES and N64 were both very lacking in terms of raw CPU POWer. The GameCube is the only one they piled money into, and they obviously did it right, because even at it's current cost, they're making 15% per console. Whereas MS is STILL losing money on every Xbox sold.

OK, NOW I'm getting excited!

Be sure to follow through to the original article and look at the examples of displacement mapping. I think we could be in for a MAJOR visual treat!

If the Rev is really around 150$ I might get it much earlier than I originally planned.
I personally expected it to be around 200(-250)$. The cheaper the better.
I might even pre-order it on amazon Japan when it's cheap.

I found a VG magazine talking about the Revolution. The Rev's new controllers will be in the shape of a TV contoller, I think thats kinf of weird but they did say somthing about using a regular format I think . . . .I hope

... Did you bother to read the thread at all? the controller is common knowledge now, has been for months. It is like a TV remote, but it senses where it is in relation to the display. Sort of like the POWer Glove.

Just much better than the POWer Glove.

Other rumors say that a "normal" controller will be produced in which you stick the "remote control".

I am so looking forward to more info about the controller and the system. MAYbe at E3 everything will be unveiled.

I am so looking forward to more info about the controller and the system. MAYbe at E3 everything will be unveiled.

It better be unveiled! I can't stand the waiting anymore

I am so looking forward to more info about the controller and the system. MAYbe at E3 everything will be unveiled.

It better be unveiled! I can't stand the waiting anymore

Don't worry. Nintendo will release info E3 2006 . jk. Nintendo probably will release something soon (next couple months).

Well, IGN seems to have aquired some specs from "a very reliable source" (notice it's always from a very reliable source...?)

The author of that post is a complete and total moron, mostly because of this statement:

("an major"?!?!?! an is supposed to be used when the following word begins with a vowel, or when you're trying to sound really smart, but just end up being really annoying to people who know what words are)

But when we consider that the GameCube is easily on par with the Xbox in terms of raw processing POWer (it stumbles on the lack of storage media, and a hard drive that can be used as cache) I think the Revolution will be one hell of a machine.

Now, before everyone gets all depressed about how low these specs seem to be...

Keep in mind that the Revolution isn't going to be pushing HD resolutions (it better do EDTV , 480p, 16:9) so it doesn't NEED the muscle of the 360 and PS3. while those consoles are up there with their $200+ CPUs chugging away pumping out 1920x1080 resolutions, the Revolution will be sitting back comfortably pushing out 640x480 (maybe slightly more in widescreen mode, assuming it's supported) and the whole console will likely launch at sub-$200 it'll be even more impressive if Nintendo implements their 3D modeling patent.

For those that don't know, Nintendo holds a patent on a technology that allows models to have an extremely low polygon count, but be manipulated to look nearly, or as good as those of Perfect Dark Zero. I believe the example used in the article I read used a model with a few hundred polys, and when the technology was applied, it looked similar to those of PDZ, which uses several THOUSAND each.

Now if only we could get some word on the rumoured dedicated physics processing unit... That would just be the icing on the cake for me

I don't trust Joystiq. I'll only believe 'hot info' when it comes straight from Nintendo itself.

Speaking of which...

Thats cool... they are looking better and better..

I don't trust Joystiq. I'll only believe 'hot info' when it comes straight from Nintendo itself.

Speaking of which...

Should be noted that first party 360 games are $50 as well.

I'm not depressed about the specs.
At first, those are only speculation and nothing is finalized yet. Second, even if they are true, they are enough.
As Luke already stated, Revolution won't have to put out Hi-Def graphics. A lot of 360s and PS3s horsePOWer will be eaten up by the high resolution graphics.
I bet that on a standard TV (which I own, no HD set yet) you won't be able to see much of a difference between the 3 consoles. And even if you would, I'm fine with that. I'm content with the graphics the current generation (including DC!) os giving me. It's enough already, at least for me. I saw 360 games running on a 50' HD screen. They look nice, but hey, on my 20' normal TV they won't look much better than current-gen games.
The Revolution will have better graphics than GC,PS2 and XBox. That's enough for me. If Nintendo brings some good games out, they'll have me buy that thing.

I read on a Japanese guy's hp that Nintendo will announce Revolution's release date soon. He must know, cause he claims he has a friend working at Nintendo's PR section.

I don't trust Joystiq. I'll only believe 'hot info' when it comes straight from Nintendo itself.

Speaking of which...

Should be noted that first party 360 games are $50 as well.

I wish we had the states pricing, here in Canada it they have gone up to 69.99, even though our $ is very strong now.

I wish we had the states pricing, here in Canada it they have gone up to 69.99, even though our $ is very strong now.

Or Oblivion Special Edition... $80 before tax

But I think non-SE first party titles are only $59 here. The majority are 3rd party, and are $69 though. But Nintendo said that they can't control what third parties sell their games for either, so we'll probably see a very similar situation.

On the topic of prcing... has anyone noticed how first party Cube games are the highest priced? The average game price seems to be $49 CDN, but then when you look at Nintendo's first party titles (Geist for example) they launch at $59 CDN... Kinda Contradictory to the whole approach they're trying to take now...

a cool color scheme for the revolution. found this at ign.

That's exactly the color scheme I'm hoping for Nintendo has been showing love for it's old-school gamers lately. Releasing the Classic NES Series for the GBA, and more recently the release of Tetris DS. I'm hoping that they continue that trend... a color scheme like this would put it over the top! I'd be one happy next-gen gamer.

is what I've been waiting for! Inferior graphics, my ass... Sony can stick their prerendered images where the sun don't shine.

Screen shots suck, give me video's!

And pricing!

Hopefully games will still have a "regular" controller mode.. just incase I don't like the wand of POWer.

your arm is gonna get tired with all that pointing. Better start going into Rev. Training mode.

Screen shots suck, give me video's!

And pricing!

Hopefully games will still have a "regular" controller mode.. just incase I don't like the wand of POWer.

Regular controller mode? so... you want to abandon the whole thing that's revolutionary about the Revolution? Personally I hope ALL games require the RevMote. If they stop we'll just have another plain old console...

Second that.
Every game should use the new controller as extensively as possible.
That's what will (hopefully) make the games unique and great.

As for the screenshots:
They look good. If games look like that and that in the 1st generation of games, then I'm content and ok with that.
As I always thought and said. On a normal TV screen you won't see much of a difference between the 3 next gen consoles.

Screen shots suck, give me video's!

And pricing!

Hopefully games will still have a "regular" controller mode.. just incase I don't like the wand of POWer.

Regular controller mode? so... you want to abandon the whole thing that's revolutionary about the Revolution? Personally I hope ALL games require the RevMote. If they stop we'll just have another plain old console...

Thats not what I said.

Games can be played with the new way, but I don't see why they cannot be played the tried and true way as well.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying it the old way as well as the new way.

I can only think of one way to excercise my arm, and I don't think I can do any more of that than I already do.

lol ^ but does any1 else seriously think your arm will get tired?

My arm gets tired playing Duckhunt after like, 5 levels. The Rev will kill me.

looks good to me and that guy on joystiq is called El Moco?

My arm gets tired playing Duckhunt after like, 5 levels. The Rev will kill me.

Try barker bill's trick shooting. The balloon one . My arm hurt for two days!

More 'Red Steel' info. This is looking like it could be one awesome game.

http://www.revolutionfanboy.com/2006/04/09/even-more-red-steel-info-unsheathed/

More 'Red Steel' info. This is looking like it could be one awesome game.you nod your head with the controller as a form of communication with in-game characters that sounds pretty cool

http://www.revolutionfanboy.com/2006/04/09/even-more-red-steel-info-unsheathed/

More 'Red Steel' info. This is looking like it could be one awesome game.

Yeah, until someone at your place says your name, you look over and BANG! You just told your partner it was ok to throw that last grenade into the wall right next to you!

Red Steel looks really promising. I wasn't expecting anything until E3, but this will do!

This game looks great. The controller looks like it will add cool touches to game play as well.
As Manual said, you can't tell the graphical difference between them on a normal T.V most of the time and they still look good on a normal T.V anyway. I'm now looking forward to seeing videos now and hopefully playing demos in shops soon.

Looks like we have an official name.

... and it sucks.

The link at the bottom of the article didn't want to work for me, but there is mention of the new name on the main page of

Revolution sounds atleast 43248239489238493849829843498249242394934.7 times cooler than the new name

Oh, looks like the official page is up/working now.

The new name stinks. Revolution sounds far better and very cool indeed.

"i've got wii on deck"
heh.... i'm digging the name.

It's better than "Doo" I guess.

Wow...I really don't like that name...

Anyways, I called Gamestop today saying, "Could I reserve a Nintendo Wii?" The guy was like, "Ummm...is that the new DS or something." It was pretty funny. I called EBgames, and they knew what it was, but aren't taking reserves...

I saw that news on gamespot. What the hell...I mean come on...did they honestly sit at a table and say "lets change the name of our new console to wii".
*SIGH*. People hardly ever use their brains anymore.

Nintendo never really changed the name. The Revolution was the "codename" not the official name.

No, Wii sounds like "wee", which emphasizes the console will become the subject of 1,000 toilet gags (ZEN is already on the case I see).

Hopefully it will get changed when nintendo sees on forums that they have massively made a boo boo.

NG2005, your sig image is spectacularly awesome.

Wii Wii!
Why does that remind me of the movie "Kung POW"?

There are not many people out there who like the new name.
But at least a lot of people already heard about it.
How's that called? Viral advertising? The news of the official name spread like wildfire. At least it's a great marketing strategy of Nintendo.

I don't especially like the new name (at first I thought it was a typo for "WiFi"), but if the product is good I don't mind the name very much.

Steve(from code veronica) Wii Wii dont shoot.

Thread renamed back to original.

I don't much appreciate it being changed in the first place.

Thread renamed back to original.

I don't much appreciate it being changed in the first place.

No offense, but it should be wii so people get use to it...(the thread title)

Thread renamed back to original.

I don't much appreciate it being changed in the first place.

No offense, but it should be wii so people get use to it...(the thread title)

No, it should remain as I named it until _I_ see fit to change it.

Yes, I renamed your thread, because people don't need to be reminded of the moronic name, and forced to "get use to it" (Get useD to it would have been proper) every time they see it. the name is Wii, nobody cares.

the way it's been thrown around lately can be summed up with an example statement...

"Hey, have you heard about that new Wii game for the Wii, it's called Monkey Ball Wii. You'll probably never guess, but it's for the Wii!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

From this point on, all threads demanding that I "get use to the name" will be deleted as soon as I see them. Everyone knows the damn name, shut the fuck up about it. if anyone is too clueless to draw the link that Revolution = Wii, they're a moron, and will likely be hit by a bus within the next 3 seconds anyway.

As for the renaming, it was changed back not so much because I disagree with the name Wii, but because it's kind of an unwritten rule, mods do not fuck with other mod's posts. On that same topic, 90% of the changes Roth or I do are discussed between us before they're made. main exception being if there is a spam attack. I should have been PMed or contacted via IM before any changes were made to my post.

EDIT:

One in agreement. Thank you.

yikes ^ anywany Nintendo is stupid. They have named it Wii so the word can be understood internationally but that doesnt make sense b/c Wii has no defenition! Might as well make up another word that sounds cool or keep the name Revolution.

I've been thinking about this. As much as I dislike the name "wii" (it will always be known as "the revolution" to me) it doesn't matter as long as the games are good. Also, i've figured some consoles have what seem to be bizzare names (at least to me) anyway such as the "megadrive", so I guess it's nothing new. I'm sure the Rev's games will be good and that's what really matters.

im probably gonna call it the Wii, but every now and then, revolution

i still call my cube the Dolphin everynow and then.

I'm with Luke. "Wii" is Weak. Revolution just sounds everso much cooler.

That's the problem with unwritten rules, not everybody knows them since they're unwritten.
I didn't even look at the author name in the first place.

Well, like I do every morning, I watched some CNN with my pot of coffee nearby. They actually did a quick cover of E3 (and by quick, I mean <=5 minutes). It's kind of sad, because it seems the general public just doesn't get it. It seems that most people think the war is between Sony and MicroSoft, and just kind of dismissing Nintendo

However, on the flip-side of that, they did show the Rev and what it does for longer on CNN, so that may even help Nintendo in their quest to get non-gamers to be gamers... who knows. So I guess what I'm asking is:

What thoughts do you have about Nintendo trying to get people who don't play games now to start playing games after seeing the Rev? Do you think it will work, or do you think that it'll be up to the current gamers to make sure Nintendo is successful with this system?

Ha! You saw that too?

Anyway, I feel that Nintendo needs to come out with information NOW. And lots of it. The time to be secretive has passed, the time to steal Sony's thunder has come.

The dolphin name had no problem getting cut off. I'm sure in time, like after the release I will be making fun of it as the wii instead of the revolution.

This looks like people are using something that should be called "WII" not a revolution...

I don't mind the new at all. I would be pissed if they called it GAMECUBE 2 or or something like that. But it would never happen. What are your views on the name?

it's fucking stupid. they set themselves up for ridicule.

it's fucking stupid. they set themselves up for ridicule.
I Agree, my sentiments also.

this looks pretty cool....

I can already see some of us grabbing the guts out of that, and sticking it in a NES Zapper gun to play on our Revolutions

I post this in my Nintendo News forum, but anyhow it looks real nice. I hope there will be lots of light Gun games.

I can already see some of us grabbing the guts out of that, and sticking it in a NES Zapper gun to play on our Revolutions

People who can't get dates right? it was shown yesterday. the article was written today. everything looks to be in order to me...

The Zapper was from the eighties.

I bet people complained about the name "Exxon" too!

People who can't get dates right? it was shown yesterday. the article was written today. everything looks to be in order to me...

Pwned.

Hmmm, guess I need to read a little more carefully

When I first read that I thought that maybe he was referring to the Super Scope. Then I realised it couldn't be that because the Super Scope was never "popular".

noice.

When I first read that I thought that maybe he was referring to the Super Scope. Then I realised it couldn't be that because the Super Scope was never "popular".
And it is dubbed a "successor", and looks a hell of alot more like a Zapper then a rocket launcher

Shame... Metal Combat was teh roX0rz, and the secret mode for Lamborghini American challenge was nifty... but the Super Scope just .

"What I wanted to have happen was that people who didn't know that Game Boy Advance and GBA are the same thing would remember Wii right away because it doesn't need to be abbreviated.

Also, we wanted to express that it was something for everyone. So even if people initially oppose it, if they come to accept the name, we thought it would become a big strength. That's why we decided on it."

Meanwhile...

I'm-a thinkin' that Nintendo's a-gonna win-a dis one.

Sources:

How do you guys think Super Mario Galaxy is coming along? There are a few videos on IGN
I'm not too sure what to make of it yet. It seems a bit...odd

I'm not too sure what to make of it yet. It seems a bit...odd

I think it looks really cool, and I'm looking foward to it, but it won't be a launch title, so a lot more work will be put into before it it released.

What about all those people who won't remember that the W and the Wii aren't the same thing?

They will be culled from the population.

I just picked up the June issue of Electronic Gaming Magazine and got even more up-to-date on this system (and I wanted the retro Zelda poster inside the mag).
Even if the Revolution isn't going to be a "technical POWerhouse," as far as I'm concerned, being able to download games from NES to 64 and the new Zelda game alone, make it a POWerhouse to me. Link fishing?! Link's been spending time with characters from Dark Cloud!

Someone didn't play Ocarina of Time...

The characters from Dark Cloud (the game that tries so hard to BE a Zelda game) have been spending time with Link.

Yeah, the thing about that (That I've explained several times before) is that the 360 and PS3 are wasting most of their POWer trying to push HD resolutions. (640x480 is much easier on the CPU/GPU than 1920x1080) Also, Konami has sort-of confirmed a dedicated Physics Processing Unit in the Wii, which will further relieve stress from the CPU/GPU, AND likely allow more impressive physics than even the 360 or PS3 can push.

To put it simply, running on the same television, in the same Resolution, I think you'll have a hard time telling the difference between the 360 and Wii.

and he said something quite interesting...

I interpret that to mean that we can play NES/SNES (maybe N64, but I highly doubt the DS can handle that) on our DSes, which is great news!

Good God man, it's impossible for Nintendo to actually pull off all of the cool stuff they're offering... right?

Yeah, sadly enough, I missed out on the N64 and all its offerings, it's called terminal financial suckiness.
But with all these features coming out for the Revolution, and the DS, I know perfectly well what's going to be on my Christmas list.
It's just "Luke" now?!
OMG WTF!!! Dude, you've never beaten Ocarina of time? It's every humans job to do before they die. it's probably my favourite game ever, move over M.C. Kids.

Yeah, I saw it on Airfiggy's list yesterday and was going to offer Megaman 3 for trade, but someone beat me to it. I don't even have a 64 yet, I thought I was going to have one next month, but my bills say otherwise..

and he said something quite interesting...

I interpret that to mean that we can play NES/SNES (maybe N64, but I highly doubt the DS can handle that) on our DSes, which is great news!

O yes! They listened to me ( (jk).

I also find the water temple to be the most complex and overall the least fun. It's better once you get to know your way around though.

What games would you guy's like to see on the Wii?
I would like-

A new Wave Race - obviously, you would use the wiimote to steer your jet ski, i'd also like it to feature some "classic" courses from previous games.

A Castlevania game would be cool. You could swing the wiimote up and down to crack your whip.

I can't think of anymore right now....

I'm pretty sure Castlevania is out of the question since (I'm pretty sure) the creater of the series said Castlevania doesn't "fit" the Wii. To tiring I guess...? I'll try to find the link.

What games do I want to see? What games do I want to see?!

I wanna see Treasure games on it, that's what. Other than that, the Metal Slug Collection has me completely set.

I'm pretty sure Castlevania is out of the question since (I'm pretty sure) the creater of the series said Castlevania doesn't "fit" the Wii. To tiring I guess...? I'll try to find the link.

O RLY?
I didn't know that. Tis a great shame. Ah, well, I can but dream.....
A Wii Mario Kart would be cool too, but I assume we're pretty much garuanteed that.
And, of course, a new Karnov - if only to see him in glorious 3d......

Edit - how could i forget, a new Metal Gear, as in new. That's considering that there isn't a deal between sony & the Metal Gear team/developers (Konami?) etc.

I'm pretty sure Castlevania is out of the question since (I'm pretty sure) the creater of the series said Castlevania doesn't "fit" the Wii. To tiring I guess...? I'll try to find the link.

O RLY?
I didn't know that. Tis a great shame. Ah, well, I can but dream.....
A Wii Mario Kart would be cool too, but I assume we're pretty much garuanteed that.
And, of course, a new Karnov - if only to see him in glorious 3d......

Edit - how could i forget, a new Metal Gear, as in

The creater of Metal Gear (all of you probably know about him) said he would have loved to create a game (I think a new Metal Gear) for the wii, but he's already to far into the making of MGS4

Edit:Here's the quote about Castlevania:

Also, heres the Metal Gear thing:

It'd piss off original fans, because it would undoubtedly sport a mature look.

Ah, well.......as long as he/they get round to it eventually - i'm prepared to wait.
It doesn't matter what game it's in, but i'd like to be able to use the wiimote to "bitch slap" somebody on the screen.

I would like to see, and I think I'll get some agreements on this, a sequel that is long overdue--

That was such a great game for the NES, I'd like to see what they could do with it with the new technology they have today.

It was rumoured a while ago, I suspect it'll happen. Pit in Super Smash Bros. Brawl is a good indication.

Pit doesn't have a mature look in Smash Bros. I wouldn't say "undoubtedly" but it is a possibility.

That is good news. If they do it, I hope they do lots with the graphics, of course, but at the same time don't stray too far away from the gameplay format. Ooh, those evil Eggplant Wizards!
~SPOILER~As for Pit and a "mature look," he sported quite a mature look at the end of the original (well, if you got the good ending)!

I'd like to see a cool old-style RPG on the Wii, like Golden Sun on the GBA.

A new and better Wave Race would also be nice.

Yet more pricing speculation!

Nintendo's been tight-lipped about how much we can expect to pay for its forthcoming Wii so far, merely stating it'll hit shelves at a price significantly lower than the competition. Now though, it seems the company's revealed that we should be forking out a maximum of around 120 GBP come launch, according to translated reports from Famitsu.com.

Speaking at the company's latest press conference unveiling its financial results, Nintendo revealed that Wii would arrive in Japanese stores with a maximum price tag of 25,000 yen. Whipping out our calculators and doing some quick sums, that roughly translates as 222 USD or 174 euros. By way of comparison, the PS3 will retail for 62,790 yen (558 USD/437 euro) at launch, while the Xbox 360 currently sells at 39,795 yen (277 USD/353 euro).

Obviously that 120 GBP is a direct conversion, but even so, it's looking like Wii's going to be an affordable little console indeed when it launches later this year.

from computerandvideogames.com

A picture of Snake in the new Smash Bros. Looking good.

Did you see the trailer where Snake was hiding in a box and Mario and Link were fighting nearby?
That's hilarious.
This may be the first Smash Brothers I buy.

i thought this was pretty funny, and some of you would like to see it

Seeing that, reminds me that the Wii will require a whole lot more energy than all the "other" consoles. Sure it will be so friggin sweet that you won't be able to contain yourself, BUT what about those days when you feel too lazy to even get up and hit the RESET button?! I sure as hell won't want to be all "actively" swinging around a Wiimote! I will just wanna sit there and mash some buttons...

I guess that'll be time to play some of the downloadable games, or just play another console.

I like the layout of the Wiimote very nice. I will be getting this system for sure. I am just wishing for two games:
1)New PSO game only for Wii, Maybe 5? or 4 with Wii only Content.
2)Streets of Rage, A new update for the Wii would be nice!

Lol, that was funny...I heard tell that in the Wii, if you spin the new Zelda game backwards, "Link Is Dead" comes out of the speaker. (Joke).
Yeah, I agree with you, Logan, I honesty don't know why PS2 didn't come with some way to turn the POWer on from the chair/couch for those kind of days!

Yeah, I agree with you, Logan, I honesty don't know why PS2 didn't come with some way to turn the POWer on from the chair/couch for those kind of days!

They did. I would post the picture of the current SONY brand PS2 remote but, again I am being lazy and in a hurry.

We do (no pun intended). I was just discussing that with the wife two days ago when we went to pick up Star Wars Legos II for Jeremiah. She's all about it as well. I'm pretty stoked.

Won't buy it at launch, will buy it when the inevitable pre-order backup is over.

Everything's announced. So, what do you think?
249$. A bit more expensive that I personally expected, but not too bad also.
Who gets one at launch?
I could get one from Japan (because I have some Japanes Yen left), but I guess I'll wait. I'm too busy with my graduation as that I could play games to the extent I would if I bought a Wii.
I'll buy one at the end of next year, or somewhen 2008. Until then I have lots of older games to play.

I was totally ready to pre-order one TODAY, then they announced that we pretty much get a $199 console, but we have to buy Wii Sports for $50 (Since the Japanese console is 25,000 yen including taxes) And only white? I'm really undecided now. I guess the degree to which Canadians get gouged will also be a factor.

Personally, I think $250 is too high, MS could easily drop the 360 core by $50 and match it. Had they gone with the Japanese pricing ($199 US) and scrapped the pack-in, I'd be all over it. But now I have a lot of decisions to make...

I also don't understand why they force Wii Sports only on the Americans and not the Japanese, too. I guess they think the Japanese will buy Wii Sports at lauch anyway.

maybe they're trying to say Americans are fat, obese, overweight, good for nothi.... we need to exercise and play sports

I don't htink we are paying for Wii Sports in that $250. Not $35 worth anyway. Prices don't usually reflect exchange rates between countries. Nintendo would have developed Wii Sports for in house use and testing anyway. Surely they want to have sample code to provide developers. It seems they just decided it would be a nice pack in.

The Canadian price is confirmed at $280CDN. Not bad at all. I will be buying it at launch with an extra remote/nunchuk and 2 games. Zelda and something else.

Confirmed where? I haven't seen any mention of Canadian prices at all.

I am very happy about the Price and the Date. (Gives me time to save my money).
I wish I could get another color besides White but thats fine I guess. The date is getting closer its all about waiting now..

Can I pre-order it yet? EBgames near me said no but is there places that are taking pre-orders?

Also I plan on buying a few Controllers and Zelda TP and maybe another game also if I have enough money left.

At $60 US each?

At $60 US each?

Thats it, I have had it..No Wii for me. It's cheaper to go with the XB360 and thats what I shall do. Shocking I know.

Dude, don't be so drastic! The Xbox 360 controllers are the same price..
Don't give up on the Wii, we need somebody to tell us if it pwns or not.

I won't be buying one for a few years, I'm already auctioning half my collection to buy tin cans.

I will own a Wii someday when it's cheap, in a few years. But the XB360 controller doesn't take batterys there for it is worth the price the built in Battery pack is worth it.

I also wouldn't compare Wii and 360, cause they're so different.
There are games on Wii you won't get on 360 and Vice versa. If you want the best from the 2 worlds, getting is the best idea.

Wii: Nintendo franchises (Zelda, Metroid,...), new control scheme, cheaper price, (probably) big variety of genres/games

360: Great graphics on HD panels, but the controls and gameplay are as they were since 20 years (not that it's a bad thing); expect mainly FPSs, racing games and other sports games for this consoles. (until now there's only 1 title on 360 that would interest me: Oblivion. The upcoming Viva Pinata looks nice and promising, too...)

As for the price. I think 360 doesn't come with wireless capabilities out of the box, right? The Wii has it built in. Wait some months, the price will go down 50$ fast I assume.
And 360 wireless controllers aren't that cheap either.

I agree with you 100%.

The reason I have so much faith in the Wii is that Nintendo has been amazing with the DS and it looks like that's the direction they want to take with the console. Just like with the DS, it's the games that couldn't be done on any other system that will really make it shine.

If price is your main concern, then I think the Wii is the better choice. Let's do some math.

360 Console - $500 (you can't really consider the core bundle, it doesn't have full functionality)
Extra controller - $60
2 games - $140 ($70 each. I'm not considering the cost of "cheap" games)
TOTAL - $700

I picked up a wired controller today for $20. many of those "cheap" games are a lot more substantial that what Nintendo is forcing you to pay $50 for in Wii Sports. Also, there are a good handful of games that launch at $50 - $60, just like the Wii. it's mostly just super high profile titles that hit shelves at $70

Ok, now for the Wii.
Console - $280
Extra Controller - $45+$25 (a guess, since there is no confirmation)
2 Games - $120 ($60 each)
TOTAL - $470

Let's not forget a component Viceo cable, since the 360 ships with one as standard. I assume that'll be $40

The 360 comes with 1250 MS points, a $20 value. The Wii comes with none, so we can add another $20 there too.

And some form of upgraded storage, because the internal 512MB will be filled about 10 minutes after connecting the console to the internet. the costs of SD media vary greatly, but we'll say $50 - $60 for a card. Since they did away with support for USB hard drives.

As well as all the other little goodies the 360 ships with that the Wii has no equivilent for yet, such as the headset.

This post isn't intended to incite a war, I'm just clarifying that the prices are a lot closer than people may think.

I see what you're saying Luke, but alot of that is stuff that I'm not too worried about. For instance, the video cable... you know me, not too picky about that. Points to go towards whatever is nothing big to me as well. I'm not even sure I'll be using any kind of points, unless there's an awesome download for the Revolution that I just can't do without.

The storage... hmmm... not sure if I'll use much, so for now that's something I don't need to take in as a factor.

The headset... not sure if they'll have one of those for the Nintendo system, but I could really see it happening. That'd be kind of nice for it to I think. They have so many eggs in their basket right now that they probably didn't want to overwhelm developers... who knows.

Basically everything that the Rev comes with right now is pretty much all I'll need, so not getting extra goodies doesn't affect me much. I'm thinking alot of people backing up this system don't care too much about that stuff either, though I could be wrong. I'm sure the extras that come with the 360 are a nice addition though :)

Im getting one!

If you decide only by price, don't buy new consoles.

And for the games it's the same. Wait a year and many titles will be 30 or 20$.

I don't think Wii's 512MB will be full that quickly. I guess they tested it and tried to implement that much that under normal usage it is sufficient.
I could be wrong, though.

I say it again: I think comparing prices doesn't help very much, particularly here. Everybody has different needs and buys different accessories, so everybody must decide for him/herself.

Let's say you don't plan to go/play online with your console:
Wii: 249$, with 1 (or let's say half a) game, i.e. Wii Sports.
360: 299$ (the basic version is enough for that), without game. You can buy a cheap game and then you're at 319 or 329$ perhaps.
-> 60-70$ difference

Now you want to play online:
Wii: 249$, online gaming itsself is free
360: 399$ (you need the HDD to play online, right? Correct me if I'm wrong) + monthly fee about 5$ (right?) + a cheap game (20$)
-> 170$ difference (the difference is bigger if you want a wireless connection and the dongle is quite expensive)

VC games and XBL games cost about the same I think, so no big difference there.

That's why I'd rather compare the games.
I personally choose the console that has the games that interest me.
And here I have no choice really. I want Zelda, Mario and other Miyamoto games. I only get those on Nintendo platforms. That's why I always bought those.
My next platform will definitely be a Wii. Not now, but later. Now I wouldn't even have the time to play much. I'll save time and money and buy one when it's cheaper.

And when MS's new console is out I'll buy a 360 at a sale for Oblivion and some other interesting games that might still come up.

i plan on buying a Wii, but not on launch. i'll wait a few months, when the hype of a new console dies down and when there's more games for it. i might even wait til the first price drop, i'm not sure on that yet. but the Wii is looking pretty good.

for Luke, i think i remember you asking about a Canadian price? says $279.99

I have a question, are all NES game created by Nintendo going to be playable on the Wii? And what about SNES and n64?

Most likey Yes. But I think the price for some of the games are going to be over priced. I hope they find away to take NES ROMs from the internet and put them on the Wii for free.

i read on that Wiki article i posted for Luke, that in Japan Famicom NES ROMs for Wii would be 500 Yen, SNES 800 Yen, and N64 (i think) 1000 Yen. that's about $4.25 USD per NES game, kinda shitty, but i think the whole rom thing is more or less for the "ZOMG IM TEH RETR0 BCUZ I PLYD MARIO" people, and not for the collectors or the people that still have/play old games.

i'd rather get them for free on the internet than get then free on a Wii, but that's just me.... no, i wasn't trying to rhyme

You'll also be able to use Gamecube controllers on the Wii. But it's pointless trying to compare the non-standard hardware. Same thing goes with the cheap games. Wii will have good cheap games too, but it's impossible to guess about it right now. That's why it makes sense to compare the base price for a 360 game to the base price of a Wii game. The 360 games are $10 more expensive.

Also, about the rest. You are trying to make the Wii into a 360. It's not. You will not need all that extra storage with the Wii. Most users will not need component video cables. The online points are also a pretty weak selling point. I really wouldn't let $20 in game demos sway me either way.

Of course the Wii doesn't come with as much stuff as the 360. If it did, Nintendo would have to take a $200 hit on each system. The point is, if you are equally interested in both systems and you think each one has the same amount of games that you will enjoy and you are being conscious with your money, then the Wii is a better choice.

That's what I think anyway.

And please try to understand that Nintendo isn't making you pay $50 for Wii Sports. Just because most of us were expecting the system to cost $200 on launch, that doesn't make it true. The system costs $250. Wii Sports is a freebie add in. I highly doubt Nintendo would be charging us $200 had they left it out. What they did was put it in so that it's more appealing to the average consumer. When mom is out Christmas shopping, now she'll see a $250 system that comes with 5 games in one! Well then, her son is crazy if he thinks she's going to buy him that Xbox thing.

It's $212 in Japan after tax, I understand that the price there doesn't equal the price here, but essentially, yes they are charging $50 for Wii Sports.

I suppose I should have specified that the price comparison is based on the way I would require the console to be eqipped. I haven't run that has support for component video without component cables in a while, and I don't plan to change that any time soon.

So are there going to be NES Games playable or just SNES and N64?

You will be able to play:

NES
SMS
GENESIS
SNES
N64

Maybe we will get more systems soon.

You will be able to play:

NES
SMS
GENESIS
SNES
N64

Maybe we will get more systems soon.

SMS wasn't confirmed, but Turbo Grafx 16 was. At the Japanese event it was confirmed that there would also be games for the MSX computer available. I don't know if those will make it over here, since that machine didn't sell very well here.

I wonder if I can buy VC games from other regions?

As I will buy a Japanese Wii, I'd like to know if I only can access Japanese content on their servers, or European, too.
Time will tell I guess.

That would be pretty cool!
Toys"R"Us near me are not taking anymore pii-orders(Pun intended) on the Wii. I guess I can just go to Zellers or something on Lanuch day. I remember when the NDS came out the first day there were lots of handhelds that weren't on pre-order.

Nice idea for your sig, Aaron.

Maybe preorders aren't necessary. Nintendo usually has enough consoles out to meet demand... that's except Japan of course.

I was kind of upset with the price but what ever. I am not going to get a Classic Controller at first I will just use one of my GCN one's. I also have a 512MB SD Card so thats fine. Oh thanks Manuel! I need sto start saving so more. No buying games until I reach my Goal. I should have enough by Lanuch with Pay Checks and such. I am not going to Pre-Order the Wii, Just go and get it on Lanuch day, .

I'm also looking into getting the Wii at launch, but I need more money (I have 70 dollars). I might be thinking of preordering it though, because I don't want to be going to all the stores around me looking for one.

I would hurry if I were you then. I guess soon stores will stop taking Pre-Orders. If you don't get it pre-Ordered just check Target or Best Buy or something they must have some that weren't Pre-Ordered at Lanuch.

Well I believe it only costs 50 dollars to have one pre ordered, and I could just pay the rest on launch. So, I'll be looking into to it soon.

Indeed, $50 is the Pre-Ordering price around here too, Well I found out a certain Game Store just an 20 mins away from me has Pre-Order's and you could put down $5 if you really wanted too I guess. But I may line up on Saturday and wait for the Wii.

Getting in line two months early? that should be fun.

Getting in line two months early? that should be fun.

I meant the day before it's lanuchs. Not to many place's here in Trenton are taking Pre-Orders. Zeller's will be taking pre-orders starting this Saturday.

Not all of the consoles a store orders will be pre-ordered will they? Surely they will have some you can buy if you wait outside or come early enough. I really dont wanna pre-order one for 50 bucks.

that's basically a down payment, it works kinda like layaway.

that's basically a down payment, it works kinda like layaway.

True that. But it's your call if you want to Pre-Order it or not. I have a feeling they won't be all sold out at Lanuch if you go in the morning. I am waiting for the best pre-order deals, like maybe Best Buy or Future Shop may gave out a free T-Shirt or hat with Pre-Order. I wouldn't mind walking around with a shirt that says "Wii" or even a hat for that matter!

so its not an additional 50 correct? just 50 of the total.

Some places say the the least ammount is $50. If you wanted to you can pay for the system now and just wait to pick it up.

yeah but its $50 of the total amount right? Not an additional $50?

It's not an additional $50, just part of what you pay for the item.

Well, I'm still debating wheather or not to get it on launch. I might sell my Dragon Warrior games (I-IV) so I can maybe like 100 dollars towards the Wii...

YAY:

MP3 Playback on Wii

News Date: 10/09/2006 23:52:06
Source: Nintendo
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Nintendo reveals that Wii has native support for MP3 playback in Nintendo's latest translated entry of "Iwata Asks."

Nintendo continues to reveal delicious nuggets of Wii information in its long-running Q&A series with Iwata and his underlings. In the latest addition Iwata talks with Kouichi Kawamoto, most recognized for directing Brain Age for Nintendo DS.
In the interview, Kawamoto explains the history and motivation behind his Photo Channel. While Iwata and Kawamoto mentions entertaining features such as drawing graffiti, most surprising is its support for audio playback: when viewing a slideshow, MP3s stored on the SD card will play in the background. Kawamoto also mentions video playback, though it seems to be fairly limited.

While Nintendo's built-in MP3 playback looks to be confined to the Photo channel for now, game developers will likely be able to offer similar MP3 playback in their own software, not unlike the custom soundtrack feature Microsoft offers. Wii's SD card slot opens many new possibilitiesâ€”MP3s and digital images could just be the beginning.

If you missed earlier episodes of "Iwata Asks," be sure to read up!

Michael "TYP" Cole, Senior Editor, IT Director

Pretty cool.

That's nice to hear. I have lot of mp3s and some SD cards floating around.
I think when I get a Wii I won't use the mp3 function very often (I'm sure I'll test it once though), but it's cool that they added this.

Since Nintendo is said to be so Apple-ish these days, wouldn't it be good for ipod owners if they could plug their ipod into the wii via usb? Use itunes via Wii? (Wii-tunes?) There are so many possibilities...

Well, here we go. Nintendo is officially breaking away from strictly console. I knew that was going to happen. I guess it's no big deal, but I always thought that was awesome that they didn't include extra garbage that I won't use anyway... just a console. Oh well I suppose.

Bear with it. If you look at CD/DVD-based consoles, all except Gamecube had extra functions i.e. CD and/or DVD playback.

If they use the mp3 function for games, then it isn't even "garbage".
Such little functions that don't cost extra money are ok I guess.

"Wii Component Cables Sold Online Only"

480p a Go For Wii Launch
NOA confirms that component cables will be available to purchase. Pricing inside.
by Matt Casamassina

October 19, 2006 - Nintendo last month revealed that its new Wii home console would ship with composite cables for standard resolution televisions. However, the company did not specify whether or not high-definition TV owners would be able to separately purchase Wii component cables to run games in progressive-scan, and hence we've been bombarded with a steady flow of questions from concerned readers.

Well, today you can finally stop flooding our e-mail boxes because Nintendo of America has commented on the subject and yes, your component cables are on the way.
A spokesperson for the company told IGN Wii this morning that the Wii component cables would be available for purchase with the launch of the console in November. The cables will cost $29.99 and will only be available through online retail outlets, including Nintendo's store, Best Buy, Circuit City and EB Games.

If you already own GameCube component cables, you're out of luck because these are not compatible with the Wii console.

Why Nintendo is again only selling its component cables via online retailers -- as it did with GameCube -- is a mystery, but at least the solution will be available immediately.

Nearly all of the 30 or so Wii launch window games run in 480p and 16:9 modes.

I heard about that... So we're going to have the exact same problem as the GameCube... Cables that are foolishly expensive, and impossible to get because Nintendo will never have any in stock.

Yea I don't understand that either. It's not like it's going to kill Nintendo to ship them to stores and retailers. They're still getting their money so why does it matter.

It would even bring them more money if they shipped to retailers, right?
I mean, more people would buy it if they found it in stores.
I don't quite understand Nintendo's decision...

Well because of the storm here in Buffalo, I missed the preorders for the Wii . The MP3 thing seems cool though.

Someone didn't bother to read the article...

Someone didn't bother to read the article...

Sorry about that Luke.

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Pre-awareness Wii displays for Best Buy?
Posted Oct 24th 2006 11:50AM by Blake Snow
Filed under: Nintendo Wii, Business

A Best Buy employee who wishes to remain anonymous sent in the above pre-launch Wii setup for the retailer including a 22-page memo documenting which stores will participate in the promotion. The letter, written by VMSM (third-party Nintendo marketer?) and addressed to "Best Buy Retail Management," names 249 participating stores and includes installation instructions for two, four-foot "Coming Soon" billboards with one count-down clock. Billboards are expected to hit stores on November 1.

While it looks big, keep in mind those white boxes could denote existing inventory. More interesting, however, is the display copy: "When you hit a drum, swing a raquet or a bat, why should you have to press a button?" A new slogan that perhaps effectively communicates Wii's take on the game interface.

Well, I went to Ebgames last night with a friend, and I played a Wii! Any doubts I had about the Wii are gone! The controller was great. Very confortable, and work great! I only was able to play Excite Truck but it was great. One of the workers there was really nice, and was talking all about the Wii, and how its really getting everyone into gaming like his younger daughters. Anyone interested in the Wii, go to your local game stores, and check if they have Wii demos. I also went to Target and played a PS3. The graphics were WOW! They were really crisp and clear. I played some racing game. Had no clue as to what it was. I played a race, and I hit dead straight into a wall, and there was no rumble. It felt....strange without a rumble. I graphics though were really great. Back on topic though, anyone else get to play a Wii? What are your thoughts if you have.

You probably played Ridge Racer 7, which, from the videos I've seen, looks exactly the same as the year old Ridge Racer 6 on the 360. As far as looking good, nothing in existence comes close in any way, shape, or form to Gears of War on the 360.

As for the Wii controls, I'm hearing of more and more people having problems with them. But I guess I'll have to hope for a demo unit in my EB soon.

I can't wait for the Wii demo unit's to come here! All I seen so far for Wii is a Video set up at Wal-Mart showing the Features of the Wii. No Wii unit there.

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I really like what I'm seeing with regard to early 3rd party support for Nintendo's system. You would think that after the debacle developers got themselves into with regard to most of their GameCube games - ie selling 10-40% of PS2/Xbox totals on GCN - that developers would try the wait-and-see approach with the Wii - in other words, only making games for the Wii if it sells.

Given Nintendo's audience's track record in that regard, I wouldn't bank on my games selling if I were a developer, either.

It's no secret that developers are rarely loyal and jump ship to whatever platform is most successful. Apparently, even after last generation, a lot of big-name developers are at least pretty sure that the Wii will be a success - either that, or Nintendo is supplying them with lots of incentive.

Namco's ridiculous 30+ games announcement is another example of this. Here's to hoping Nintendo owners actually buy 3rd party games this time around.

Bump!

Last night I went to EBgames. I saw the Wii there I walked up to the Demo unit and spent a good long while looking at the system. I fell in love with it. It is so sexy, more sexier then me I may add. I asked them "May I please try the Wii"? They told me "Do you have a Credit Card?" I thought to myself and those rumors of Gamestop in the States making you use a Credit Catd were true. Someone in line asked how come he needs a Credit card? I jumped in and said "Just incase if you some how damge the system or steal the Wiimote". I can't wait...Christmas is soon, I will hold my Wii in my arms, And spend many many hours with Zelda TP and DBZ....

Now that I've spent some days with the Wii I can draw some resume.
That is, I haven't had so much fun for quite a time now.

We only have two games (Wii Sports and Rayman) until now, but those are great.
The controls in Wii Sports are very good. The Wii remote is very responsive and the movements are transmitted in real time. The longer you play the better you get at most sports. I have improved quite a bit in Tennis and Golf (and also the other sports). The game has a good learning curve.
Raving Rabbids is cool, too. Some mini games repeat themselves (i.e. there are sometimes 2 or more variants of the same game), but that's ok I guess. Most of the games take good advantage of the Wii remote controls. They are quite intuitive.
Those games are especially good when somebody is watching.
I'd give them both a solid 8 (out of 10).
I'd love to try the multiplayer modes, but I still haven't got my Wii remote (the one that comes with Wii Play).

The Photo channel is nice, too. I've used it several times already to show lots of photos to family and friends. It's much more convenient than watching photos on the computer or on a DVD player. 4 megapixel photos take up to 5 seconds to load on my DVD player, but the Wii displays them in like 0.1 second. That's nice and I'll definitely use it for showing photos again.

The Mii channel can be addictive. Until now we have made Miis for evey member of the family and some friends of the family. We haven't made any celebrity Miis yet, though... That's just a matter of time.

Load times are ok. There are some seconds, but that's ok. Load times shouldn't be much longer, or I'd be put off.

What takes too long in my eyes are internet connections. I guess the internet was slow because everybody tried it out at once and Nintendo's servers are overloaded... or I hope so. I hope the connection goes a bit faster than it is these days.

So I think Wii is a great system. It's quiet, small, has very low POWer consumption and looks nice.
Now I hope for many good games (not only party games, though), a freeloader and cheaper VC games (even if it's Nintendo... 5-10$ is too much for my taste).

edit:
Until now we did not have any accidents, dropped Wii remotes, broken TVs or something like that.

Hier guys, IÂ´m posting this from my sisterÂ´s Wii. Writing with the Wii remote takes some time, but itÂ´s not that bad when you get used to it. Youtube and wiicade.com also work. Nice.

I wish Nintendo would let us use the GCN Keyboards for the Wii on the Broswer..I hope they make Keyboard for the Wii soon because pointing and clicking each letter takes a long time me thinks.

It takes some time, but you get faster when you use it more often. Compared to using a keyboard it's still very slow, though...

That stinks. I think i'll have to get some soon in Anticipation of getting a compatabile TV, so not to face problems later.

I notice some people have been posting Wii friend codes or console codes - what are these, exactly? Are they the same idea behind the DS's where you need a friend code to play someone or something?

Exactly the same, Nintendo doesn't like to listen, or use any common sense whatsoever.

Thanks for that Luke.
I have a couple of "n00b" questions with regards to the wii.
Firstly, how nessercary is it to buy one of the memory card things? What I mean by this is, could I play and save straight from the box, without one of these cards? I understand there's some kind of internal memory?

Secondly: Using the virtual console, would I only be able to buy games released in Europe? Just as somebody in the US could only buy NTSC games?
The reason I ask is I would like to buy some SNES Games that were only released in the NTSC format.

I can't find a simple answer anywhere. Thanks in advance.

You don't need a memory card. All will be saved within the Wii's internal memory. That's 512MB. When that is full you need SD cards, which are cheap though.

You can only buy Virtual Console games from your region.

Are they the kind used in digital cameras?
At least if there is some kind of internal memory I could delay buying one of these cards for a while.
It's a shame about the VC titles.

Yes, lots of cameras have SD cards.

You can buy them cheap off .

If you want US Virtual Console games you'll have to import a Wii I guess...