PS3 will not let you play Used Games :(

â€A deVice and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording mediaâ€¦ A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiatedâ€¦ If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate softwareâ€¦ Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end-user becomes practically impossible.â€

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Its just a "rumor" It probably won't happen

Let's just hope it happen!!

Let's just hope it

Let's hope it , then Sony will fall flat on their asses because of their greed.

Keep in mind that this is the same Sony that installs spyware on your computer if you try to play any recently released CD from their label...

Let's just hope it

Let's hope it , then Sony will fall flat on their asses because of their greed.

what about MS? There much more money hungry then Sony.

Man, if this goes through, this has Anti-trust lawsuit written all over it. I doubt it'd even be LEGAL to do that. Besides, if this were to pass, even bringing a game to a friend's house wouldn't work.

I know..it would suck. I would have to bring the whole system.

MS may be money hungry, but all companies want to make as much money as possible.

Anyway, if it is true, it would stink. But I don't think i'll ever get one, so

They don't have to be online. You'd just need a valid registration code, similar to how PC games have been for the last 10 years. of course you could always "crack" the game, but the average person doesn't know how to do that sort of thing.

Ok, let's assume you buy a PS3 game and it comes with a little card that comes with the registration code on it. Let's also assume that your PS3 will never be connected to the internet. The first time you play your PS3 game you have to type in the registration code. Voila! The game works. A couple of days later, you grow tired of the game, and sell it on EBAY along with the registration code. John Doe, who buys the game, puts the game into his PS3. Types in the registration code, and Voila! The registration code works! And why is that? The PS3 has a built in player and not a burner. I.e., unless the PS3 somehow alters the disc by "burning" the registration code ALONG with a unique "thumbprint" of your PS3 system (meaning the game would only work on your PS3 system) I don't really see how they are going to implement this otherwise.

Recap on how this serial code/PS3 protection might work:

1.You buy a game, SEND in the unique reg. of your PS3 system ALONG with the unique registration code of the game. Think about this, how many of you actually send in those cards?

2.You buy a game, are Hooked up to the Internet, game sends system code PLUS game reg code to game publisher (or Sony). You honestly think that 100% of the PS3 units sold will be Internet connected?

3.PS3 system will burn both system code and game reg code onto the disc. You honestly think that Sony would go through the trouble of making their "gaming console" burn ready? That would add to the price along with that kind of a integrated system being rather bothersome because if that's the only thing the burner does it's rather pointless in the great scheme of things. Have we heard that the PS3 will have ANY kind of burn-capabilities?

Just some thoughts

that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard! first of all, what 3rd party company would want to make a game for a system like that!? sales would be horrible. noone will be able to rent games to try them out before buying. you can't share games with friends unless they're at your house playing your system. people will have to pay too much money to get a game. $60 as you won't be able to buy used ones. used video game stores won't carry ps3 games. why the hell would a company want to do something like that? that's pretty much asking to go bankrupt

Yes. But you know, it's Sony, so I wouldn't doubt that they would do something like that. know it's stupid, but the guys at Sony probably think it's a grand old idea.

Yes. But you know, it's Sony, so I wouldn't doubt that they would do something like that.

yeah good point. they're a bunch of brainiacs

This is probably the most likely method, because there's no way anyone would take the time to program potentially millions of consoles to check for its own unique regestration codes.

Imagine a far-fetched non-internet scenario:

They didn't give you the regestration code to play the game until you sent them the reg card. Because there's no way to link a regestration number to a system without sony knowing which system each game is for. Sony has to link the system to the game itself manually.

This would force you to wait 6-8 weeks to actually play the game. UNLESS you could do it over the phone. Which would STILL be a pain in the ass. Imagine the hold time on those lines. Imagine the man hours required to take those calls.

Even still, any regestration number gotten this way couldn't be checked against the system unless each individual system was programmed to know its own regestration code and check it against the code sony gave you.

I'm having trouble thinking of a sane way for this to work.

Sony won't be so stupid to forbid gamers rentals and used software.

As far as I heard, they have a technology that could do something like that, but that doesn't mean they have to use it.
They could use that for promo or presentation discs which they don't want to be played somewhere else than presentations or stores.

, then Sony will fall flat on their asses because of their greed.

Keep in mind that this is the same Sony that installs spyware on your computer if you try to play any recently released CD from their label...

Yeah, they've gone crazy. Of course, Bill Gates' megolomaniacal tendencies have resurfaced, so they're not alone.

Sony has added its voice to a growing number of publishers and developers who are questioning the harm caused to the industry by the pre-owned games market.

Speaking to respected trade publication MCV, SCE UK's commercial director Kevin Jowett
said that the pre-owned games are damaging full priced titles: "The blame for heavy discounting of current releases can be laid at the door of the pre-owned market."

Jowett believes that the thriving second hand market, which has become an increasingly important component of retail, has forced prices down. "When consumers see pre-owned titles for 10 or 15, this fosters the perception that this is the realistic price for all games, and the new release roster looks unrealistically priced," he said.

However, the Sony boss went on to add that, although this was damaging, it wouldn't affect Sony's budget Platinum range: "Platinum offers gamers a cheaper way to buy games with a proven heritage. A Platinum release is an assured-quality title, whereas a discounted release may not meet these same exacting standards."

Jowett's comments certainly echo some developers' legitimate concerns. Epic's very own Mark Rein undertook a massive and highly entertaining rant at last year's Edinburgh Games Festival in which he blamed developers' financial woes on the second hand market.

This latest fusillade from one of the industry giants is particularly interesting in light of recent speculation that the PlayStation 3 won't play second hand games and that any title you buy, will have to be an original and fully licensed copy.

Does the industry have a valid point? On the one hand, it's easy to see why publishers and devs despise the second hand market - they only get to sell their game once, don't see any profit from subsequent second-hand sales and are expected to continue to offer support on second hand products. Jowett may have also a valid point when he says the second hand market is driving price expectations - but we're less convinced of that as an argument.

Few would argue that the majority of games are too expensive, no-one minds paying top dollar for a Half-Life, Halo or GTA, but is Mediocre FPS 8, Average Racer II or By The Numbers RTS 4 really worth 45 GBP? There's also the question of ownership. Once you buy game code you might think of it as your own personal property, which you're able to re-sell or dispose of as you see fit. However, it may surprise you to learn that most of the time you actually just buy a license to use the code, rather than really owning it in your own right.

source computerandvideogames.com

That's crap.
Sorry for the language.

If there are no used games, hardware sales will go down the hill.
It's just a desperate attempt to justify their overpriced stuff. Blame it on the used games.

That's crap.
Sorry for the language.

If there are no used games, hardware sales will go down the hill.
It's just a desperate attempt to justify their overpriced stuff. Blame it on the used games.

Those were my thoughts

It stinks for those who will buy one.
Also, if I get a game 2nd hand that I enjoy, i'm more likely to buy the sequel, at full price, more than I would have if I hadn't picked up the prequel cheap.

This seems highly unlikely.

EB is quaking in its boots I bet!

that idea pretty much sucks. you won't be able to rent games, or borrow from a friend. so how do you know if a game is worth your money? there'll be no way to try it before buying it. sales will be horrible. there is no way the PS3 will have a long life, noone will be able to play the damn thing in 10 years from now.

Look, not even is that stupid.

Exactly what I wanted to say.
No company can be so stupid.
But SUPPOSEDLY, if they were so stupid this would be the end of the era Playstation. Even a lot of fanboys wouldn't buy such a crooked hardware.

A lot? I doubt any fanboy would stick by Sony. I'm of the opinion that loyalty goes down the toilet when said loyalists are being actively screwed.

If what Sony is gonna do is true...then this marks the fall of Sony in the gaming industry...time for a new king to rise again. And...also if its true..im gonna have to get a Revolution...

It happened to me with GTA 3. Got it second hand, then reserved Vice City for when it was released.

I'm sure there are somefanboys who don't buy used games anyway. Those might stick to Sony.

Who's retarded enough to buy one of those in the first place?

Who's retarded enough to buy one of those in the first place?

If I was sleeping in pillow cases stuffed with money I would.
Some people are allergic to animals and that's the closest thing they'll ever get to companionship.

Nobody is allergic to animals, they can be allergic to fur and other aspects of certain animals, but there are many solutions, hairless cats, hamsters...

or... you know, don't be a lame ass and find human companionship.

Yes, that's true.
It may be a nice, overpriced toy, but nothing more.
People who throw out 2k$ for such a toy don't need sympathy for not getting parts any more. They should have enough money to pay the guy who wants 100$ for a 50c piece.

They were also using Aibo in hospitals for therepy. So it wasn't only just a toy for rich people.

BTW, I know it isn't "technically" the animals they are allergic to, it is the PET DANDER (not the fur).

Especially for therapy they should use real animals... that's just my opinion though.

I think I'd like aibo if it was a cat.

Especially for therapy they should use real animals... that's just my opinion though.

I think I'd like aibo if it was a cat.

It's probably for the hospitals that are for germaphobes. (Sadly real animals do carry germs)

A cat aibo would be funny! I would get one just to drive my cats bonkers! (Which reminds me of a story that will skew this a bit off topic). I was watching on Animal Planet the kitty half time show (instead of the Super Bowl halftime show) and they had all these Super Cute kitties playing with jingliy toys. My cats started watching it and were trying to find where the "jingle" sound was coming from! One even tried to attack the tv.

So you can imagine the fun I would have driving them crazy.

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If I had butt load of money burning a hole in my pocket I would most definatly buy one of these!! I love anything robotic.

OKKKAYY...... Just to inform you $ony wont but that incription on the PS3. MS said they would do that eariler and they didnt remember??........ Some one said that if they did this then $ony would tumble.. Highly unlikly because fanboys are fanboys and no matter what they still will buy the games new and still will by the ps4 and 5 and 6 whenever they come out.
i dont know how to quote but uber newb said that not even $ony is that stupid but they are. Remeber Beta? Remeber Mini Disk? The formats were superior to VHS and CDs BUT!!!! sony and its partners got gready and put on rediculos patent laws and other making them the only ones to be ablew to produce teh equiptment and they over priced for everything and VHS and CDs became the winners in the format war. Top heads in $ony know that if they put in to strickt anti piracy laws on the Blu-Ray disks then it will also flop so thats why the Blu-Ray disks were held back because they had problems with there over ANTI-PIRACY protection system on teh disks and players!!
just some food for thought
matt