when is a game really beaten?

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for me, when I get 100% completion.

my vote was for 100%

mine too.

When you do everything possible in the game applies to me for Tony Hawk games. For everything else it would be 100% completion.

I don't really understand what the difference is between 100% comppletion and doing everything possible. But you've passed a game once you defeat the final boss. In the case that there is no final boss, you've passed the game when you acheive whatever Goal is set, either set by yourself or the game deesigners. This typically involves some kind of ending sequence (cretids). That Goal can, of course, change and could evenually include 100% completion.

I usually differentiate beating the game and mastering the game. Beating the game would be getting at least the minimm requirements fo completion. Mastering would be 100%. I have beaten Tony Hawk's Underground 2, but have still never mastered it.

Further, certain games can never be passed. The PC Simcity, for example, doesn't have an ending in really any sense of the word.

So it depends on the game.

I think the difference is for a game like Banjo and Kazooie you can technically win without getting ALL the puzzle pieces and music notes but it's more of a challenge to get ALL of them. That would be doing everything possible.
The same with Kingdom Hearts; I'll never "do everything possible" because I just can't get all the dalmations. But win it, sure (if I spent the time).
Oh, and this just came to me, in Donkey Kong 64, you can get over 100%.
I just woke up, is this making any sense?

I guess it depends on the game, but for me, completing a game is getting everything you can get in it

Like FF7, the game isnt over just because you beat sephiroth

I'd say you have finished a game when you see the ending screen. With a lot of modern games you really have to be in love with the game to get 100% completion (like hunting down all those secret packages in Grand Theft Auto).

mine too.

me three

100%

everything. i am crazy in beating everythign in the whole entire game.

Donkey Kong64 took a long time to beat.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it as well for most modern games. If I were to not say I conquered Metroid Prime, I could end up taking FOREVER going through it over-and-over trying to find all of the scans, or not forget to scan something on accident. There are portions on that game that, if you miss the scan, there's no going back. This makes it easy to pass things up and not realize you passed it, though you know it's something that you generally do.

I'm also not one to settle for what I feel is "cheap" on some of these games. If I got to the end of a game, and only had, say 61% completed... I'll go through it again. If it's very tedious to get 100%, then I feel it's not a "sin" (if you will) to call it conquered as long as the number isn't lower than you would like to get on a test grade I always liked A's, so that's what I at least shoot for.

Ditto

In my opinion, the game's not really over until you do everything possible in it.

same here, but do you mean "EVERYTHING", that would be impossible.

everything. i am crazy in beating everythign in the whole entire game.

Donkey Kong64 took a long time to beat.
Well, you said it too

wHoops!

i don't think you have to beat a game 100% to consider it beaten or finished. to me, if you got through to the ending legit, you beat it, or if you play the game long enough for it loop over (Spy Hunter, Duckhunt, etc.) you've beaten it. sports games can be considered beaten if you're team beats every other team in the league or whatever. some games, Tony Hawk games, Mat Hoffman, whatever else can be beaten by doing all the Goals in each level. i don't think you have to go and get EVERYTHING like all the gaps in Tony Hawks 2 to consider it beaten, that's just ridiculous. i also don't think you should have to complete every Goal in the game with every character to consider it beaten.

I did that with Tony Hawks 3. I was totally addicted.

When I see the ending of a game, I say I'm through with it.
If it's an excellent game, of course I try to get 100% out of it.

Depends really. If you beat the final boss of the game or what not, I say you beaten it. But like someone else said if you get 100% then I call it "mastered". Ive only gotten 100% on one game and thats Chrono Trigger. Because that game was the best game I probably have ever played and I couldnt stop playing back in 96. But for me to get 100% on any game I have to really,really,really love it.

To me, The difference is that by getting 100%, you get all of the required items, ect; & by doing everything possible, well, it varies; fighting every battle, getting EVERY item, seeing cutscenes in different ways, ect. lets just say that it's a step above 100%, or over as BarbieJenniGirl said.

So you're just saying is that getting 100% constitutes getting all of what the game measures (ie. levels passed in SMW) and doing everything possible includes being minutely obsessive (ie taking every path within the levels, including shortcuts and the long way)?

What about game without percentages, but with three difficulty settings (easy, normal, hard). Do you beat if you beat it on "Normal", or do you have to beat it on "Hard".

I cose the last option,collect everything possible,including whats all said above.

when you complete a series of events, THEN see the ending, unless its a Fighting game,or DDr.

A perfect example......

100%-beat it on normal

EVERYTHING-beat it on easy, normal, ect,.

Of course you don't have to do everything(in this case, beat the game on hard if you beat it already,) but it would be a nice challenge, & a waste if you bought it & just beat it once(unless if you returned it or rented it).